Amendment: In short, there are no symbolic concepts relevant in computing / computational processing except for those which also align with statistics. (There are various levels of assumptions/abstractions that could be relevant depending on the goals/tasks. But much of what one might have been doing in "symbolic computing" surely deserves a critical re-examination.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 4:48 PM Ada Wan adawan919@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Ben, Rodolfo, and Toms
Please accept that there is a responsibility to science, technology, engineering, and education (or anything that we undertake).
If you could point out the specific arguments as to which of what I wrote may be problematic to you, perhaps we can have a constructive exchange. The way in which you three expressed your sentiments on this thread can be interpreted as mobbing.
Please note the intent behind my statement and lend me the benefit of a doubt as to why I would have invested my time and energy to write the reply that I did to the list: "As language sciences (e.g. Linguistics) and NLP are still taught at some universities, i.e. part of publicly accessible education, there is a general responsibility that one should bear when promoting/hosting events that would be explicitly/implicitly supporting biases and/or in violation of scientific integrity." This applies to the whole area of computing, including digital humanities and the computational social sciences.* In short, there are no symbolic concepts relevant in computing / computational processing.* I am sorry if that has not been clear.
I understand that there are members in the CL/NLP community/communities who might be interested in (or used/addicted to) "word" hacking. But it is now high time to stop.
@Ben: Please note that I am not doing this "for fun". I am not trying to ridicule anyone. My remarks are not ad personam. For each of the research directions/practices that I commented on, there are opportunities for all practitioners to do a better job, to refine our analyses.
Thanks and best Ada
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 9:45 AM Toms Bergmanis via Corpora < corpora@list.elra.info> wrote:
Can’t agree more.
Toms
*From:* Rodolfo Delmonte via Corpora corpora@list.elra.info *Sent:* Monday, August 21, 2023 10:06 AM *To:* Ben Sir benoit.siroit@gmail.com *Cc:* corpora corpora@list.elra.info *Subject:* [Corpora-List] Re: RANLP 2023 Call for Participation
Fully agree with you Ben.
Rodolfo
Il lun 21 ago 2023, 01:00 Ben Sir via Corpora corpora@list.elra.info ha scritto:
Hi Ada,
It's understandable that enthusiasm can sometimes lead to excessive engagement, but your disruptive posting on the mailing list has reached an intolerable level. Please keep your conversations private instead of spamming everyone and curb your enthusiasm. Your obnoxious behavior reflects poorly on you.
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